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JOURNEY WITH ODYSSEus TO OUR ROOTS

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Durante el curso 2020-21 los alumnos de Cultura Clásica de 3º de ESO y de Griego de 1º de Bachillerato han realizado un proyecto

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Aeolus

Cicones and lotus- eaters

Calypso

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Cyrce and Sirens

Polyphemus

Scylla and Charybdis

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Laestrygonians

Phaeacians

Cimmerian land

Hospitality – One of the Ancient World’s Highest Virtues

Reading:

Hospitality – One of the Ancient World’s Highest Virtues

In the ancient world, travelers and strangers were to be given hospitality. As Menelaus said, when rebuking a retainer for not immediately showing hospitality to Telemachus:

You were no idiot before, Eteoneus,

but here you are talking like a child of ten.

Could we have made it home again — and Zeus

give us no more hard roving — if other men

had never fed us, given us lodging? Book IV lines 34-38

Guests, in return, were not to abuse that hospitality. Thus, when a Trojan prince, while a guest at the palace of Menelaus, stole the king’s wife and treasure, it was a breach of the rules of hospitality and led to the Trojan War. The suitors of Penelope committed a capital offense when they abused the rules of hospitality by taking over the home of an absent man. To compound their crime, they themselves abused a beggar (Odysseus in disguise) and failed to extend to him the hospitality that they had demanded and abused. The interest of the gods in punishing abuses of hospitality is shown by the sack of Troy and by the direct intervention of Athena, helping Odysseus to trap and kill the suitors.

The Cyclops is lawless, obeying neither the rules imposed by gods or any society. He violates the obligation of hospitality, eating six of Odysseus’ men before Odysseus blinds him. Eumaios, the swineherd, the first human being Odysseus meets when he returns to Ithaca, is also the first host who is neither god nor aristocrat. This episode shows that rules of hospitality extend to the lower classes.

ΑCTIVITY

There are still many cultures in the world today and in the recent past which have valued hospitality in a way similar to the ancient Greeks. However, modern Western culture does not hold hospitality in such high regard.

1. Would you make your home available to a homeless person who came in off the street?
2. Would you criticize someone who did not?
3. Would you wonder about the sanity of someone who did?
4. If the attitude toward hospitality has changed, why and how did it change?
5. Do you think refugees or immigrants experience the same kind of hospitality nowadays in our country?

Reflexiones de los alumnos sobre el tema de la hospitalidad

The Greek word “xenos” means foreigner and guest, what do you think is the reason? What does Polyphemus, who does not respect the laws of hospitality, symbolize? Do you think there is now the concept of hospitality that the ancient Greeks had? After reading the article on Ulysses syndrome, do you think that we are really behaving like Polyphemus with refugees and immigrants who want to come to Europe?

I think the reason is that you can be the host for someone one day but another day you may need to be the guest because you’re travelling and need a place to stay. So since you don’t know if one day you’ll need someone’s help, you should do what you want others to do with you: give a place to stay and food to eat.

On the other hand, Polyphemus symbolizes these people who are not hospitable. As well, nowadays we will never let anyone stay in our house without asking them about their names or job, or even knowing these things, we will say no. We just can’t understand how ancient Greeks could do that, but we should empathize with people and be more open, because not everyone in the world has to be a bad person. Also, in general we have so much fear of getting hurt by strangers, we have some kind of prejudice that connects “stranger” and “bad”.

Apart from that, I totally agree with the article. We’re Polyphemus with zero kindness who don’t want to let a murderer get in our house. So, what do we do to prevent it? Believe that every single person in the world has bad intentions and wants to hurt us. Overlooking the fact that we’re people with very little empathy about how others feel, I think that there are still good people on the planet.

Alejandra Martínez

Hospitality is something that is currently being lost, but in the past, people gave hospitality to everyone who came to their humble land and needed a shelter to stay. They gave him the basic necessities, food, water, a shower and after offering him everything he needed, that was the moment when they asked him where he came from and who he was. All this has been changing, mainly because there is no longer so much presence of the gods in our culture and in their culture, the gods were very present. All of this can be seen in the odyssey when the protagonist goes back home.

Currently, we do not treat foreigners well. We treat them as if they were objects, but they are people like us. When they enter our country, many people say they are left over and we don't give them hospitality.

I do not know when, society changed, so we consider immigrants to be inferior to us but we always have to treat them as human beings not as animals, as many people see them

Alexia Lázaro

I personally think that hospitality is something really important in the education of the people, not only hospitality, but the fact of help everybody that needs it, because if we were in that situation we surely would want the people to help us too, but unfortunately this is something that we’ve lost with the pass of the time, maybe because most of the people lives in a flat and the situation that someone is knocking at your door praying for a place to stay is less posible, or just the fact that we’re a selfish society and we don’t care about the others, just about ourselves. I know that changing that at this point is difficult, but I really wish that we could treat the needy people better than how we’re doing it nowadays.

Samuel Herrer

Polyphemus did not respect the guests, he had a supernatural and monstrous character, since he not only did not respect them but also ate them.I don't think we are behaving like him because, for example, we here have ONG that
help refugees or simply people in need.I think that hospitality is important because although we have lost that habit a bit, we do not do it the same as before, it is an act of solidarity and humility There are people in other places who do not have even half of the things that we have , and they come here with the intention of improving their living situation to survive or simply to support their family properly. When foreigners arrive here we offer them food, comfortable clothes, a place to live and we offer them a bit of our hospitality.

Kadhy Diatou

If it had been in another time much further back, perhaps if I would welcome a stranger in my house, but I think that today you can't trust anyone. I wouldn't criticize anyone who doesn't welcome a stranger in their home since I wouldn't either. Neither would I criticize someone who does welcome the stranger. I think the reason was that we all wanted more provacity and we no longer trusted each other. Yes, both refugees, immigrants or other types of people experience all the time this hospitality tratment that we have today, luckily, there are still people in tis world who continuw to have good hospitality treatment.

Erika Bádenas

I would make my home available to a homeless who came in off the street because it is nice to help people who need it. I would not criticize nobody because each person cand do whatever they want, but if that person need help in any moment, he would like to have help. I wouldnt wonder about the sanity of a person who did it. Depending on people immigrants experience different types of hospitality nowadays in our country. For example, in my opinion, I think that the people who emigrated from their country are because they are in war or are not good there so they go to another country to have a better life, that's because i think every person has the right of having a good life .

Nahia López

Would you make your home available to a homeless person who came in off the street? yes, i would let my home to a homeless person because its a symbol of respect and also its a tradition, a tradition that is a pity that has passed away

Would you criticize someone who did not? no, because i understand that the people has distrust on foreigners

Would you wonder about the sanity of someone who did? yes, a little bit, because, you don't know what diseses could have the foreigner

If the attitude toward hospitality has changed, why and how did it change? Because years ago everybody have the obligation of giving home and have hospitality to anyone who ask for it and nowadays it's not like that

Do you think refugees or immigrants experience the same kind of hospitality nowadays in our country? no, because nowadays we don’t receive the people good because we think they’re gonna steal us

Luisa Casaus

I think that the hospitality is something that has been lost over time, before people were very hospitable, they helped people who did not anything and did not want anything in return. Right now, if a person you don't know at all asks you for hospitality and that you let him into your house, you would not let him in, we would be like Polyphemus. Polyphemus was punished for not giving hospitality to Odysseus and his friends, they left him blind, but nowadays no one is criticized or punished for not being hospitable. The attitude has change, because the times has change and the things that were normal years ago, now are weird and it change because years ago, for example in villages, when someone need a bed to sleep a random person of the village offer his house for that person, and now this things doesn't happen. Migrants who go to other countries are treated well, they are treated badly because they want to escape from a war or simply go to live in another country, they are treated badly by them, and it does not seem right to me.

Lucía Gómez

People think that the people need hospitality to take advanteges to the people that logdement them. Yes, i would make available my home to a person who cames off the street. Anyone have to criticize people we don't now, people say that they doesn't matter they get criticize, but the reality is that they care about they get criticize about they live aspect. All human need sanity, they have money or not, because have a good sanity is priority. The hospitality changes because people start to distrut of the people that need hospitaliy, just because people start to enter to the houses do everithing that they want, not all obusly. Refugees are not recibe at the mood that they will want to be recibe, in some countries people is report to their natal countries.

Irune Pirón

I would probably make my house available to a homeless person, depending on the conditions in which both that person and I find ourselves. Criticize someone who did not do it according to their reasons, if they do it out of selfishness, yes, but if they do it for another reason, no.I would not ask about the sanity of someone who did not,since a person has every right to invite anyone to their home. The attitude towards hospitality has changed because these days people who ask for accommodation have bad intentions, and that is why we have become quite suspicious.Today immigrants who travel to our country are afraid because people are so disgraced and that disbelief often turns into hatred towards them.

Lucía Santos

In my opinion, nowadays we don't have the type of hospitality that they have a long time ago. Because in these days, first we look if we are going to expend too much money helping the person or if he or she can have some illness, than take care of the person that need help.

Julio Liso

Despite the fantastic ancient Greek tradition of hospitality, today we have forgotten what it means to be hospitable with people from other countries.

We have locked ourselves in our borders and we don’t offer help to the foreigner who comes in inhuman conditions and without anything. Today there are thousands of people who have to leave their homes. Leaving behind everything they have and arriving in a country that isn’t hospitable to them . Conversely, the first thing they do is asking them who they are and where they come from.

The circumstances that have caused these foreigners to leave their homes may happen to us tomorrow. So let's start behaving as we would like to be treated.

Nuria López

Hospitality is something that is being lost in this day and age, but in the old days people gave hospitality to anyone who came to their humble land and needed a shelter to stay. They would give them food, water, a shower and after offering them everything they needed, they would ask them where they came from and what their intentions were. All this has been changing, mainly because there is not so much presence of the gods in our culture and the fear of the wickedness of some people has penetrated deep into our culture. All this can be seen in the odyssey when the protagonist returns home.
In conclusion, they used to have hospitality and today's society has lost it due to selfishness and fear.

Samuel Royo

I think that "xenos" means foreigner and guest because they seek to treat foreigners who come to their homes in the best possible way, since hospitality is a religious obligation for them.

Polyphemus is not hospitable and treats the crew of Odysseus horribly, eating some of them,but as it is not hospitable it will have a very bad end,means that he is in breach of his religious obligations and will be punished by zeus.

I think we are losing that hospitality and that we do not let just anyone into our homes and if they do enter our homes we do not treat them as if they were normal guests.

My family is an immigrant family and their experience as strangers was very bad, I think we have to be hospitable to people who come to bring positive things to the country because these people deserve a good treatment.

Luis Felipe Bedoya

Okay, so what is hospitality? Well that is a thing we can say that the ancient greeks invented and they respect it so far, nowadays we are not as hospitable to people as the ancient Greek, and more if they are foreigners. The ancient Greek used to take people in even if they are from another country, so the word xenos was used for guests and also for foreigners, because all foreigners had the right of the hospitality, also if they violate this right they thought that Zeus will punish them, so they make sure the guest feel comfortable, but also there are some rules the guest had to respect, so both of them could be happy at the end.

Polyphemus violates this right and doesn't care about hospitality, devouring some men of Odysseus and also trying to kill all of them, even when Odysseus asked for haven.

I think we're acting like Polyphemus with the refugees that are coming from Syria or other countries at war, they have no place to live, and also the most of them, lose their families or their goods, and we re not making them easier the situation they're going through. So in my opinion Zeus would be so angry with us. I think we're all Polyphemus, and we're gonna end like him

Jeray Quílez

La odisea y la hospitalidad

Reading:

Hospitality – One of the Ancient World’s Highest Virtues

In the ancient world, travelers and strangers were to be given hospitality. As Menelaus said, when rebuking a retainer for not immediately showing hospitality to Telemachus:

You were no idiot before, Eteoneus,

but here you are talking like a child of ten.

Could we have made it home again — and Zeus

give us no more hard roving — if other men

had never fed us, given us lodging? Book IV lines 34-38

Guests, in return, were not to abuse that hospitality. Thus, when a Trojan prince, while a guest at the palace of Menelaus, stole the king’s wife and treasure, it was a breach of the rules of hospitality and led to the Trojan War. The suitors of Penelope committed a capital offense when they abused the rules of hospitality by taking over the home of an absent man. To compound their crime, they themselves abused a beggar (Odysseus in disguise) and failed to extend to him the hospitality that they had demanded and abused. The interest of the gods in punishing abuses of hospitality is shown by the sack of Troy and by the direct intervention of Athena, helping Odysseus to trap and kill the suitors.

The Cyclops is lawless, obeying neither the rules imposed by gods or any society. He violates the obligation of hospitality, eating six of Odysseus’ men before Odysseus blinds him. Eumaios, the swineherd, the first human being Odysseus meets when he returns to Ithaca, is also the first host who is neither god nor aristocrat. This episode shows that rules of hospitality extend to the lower classes.

ΑCTIVITY

There are still many cultures in the world today and in the recent past which have valued hospitality in a way similar to the ancient Greeks. However, modern Western culture does not hold hospitality in such high regard.

1. Would you make your home available to a homeless person who came in off the street?
2. Would you criticize someone who did not?
3. Would you wonder about the sanity of someone who did?
4. If the attitude toward hospitality has changed, why and how did it change?
5. Do you think refugees or immigrants experience the same kind of hospitality nowadays in our country?

The Greek word “xenos” means foreigner and guest, what do you think is the reason? What does Polyphemus, who does not respect the laws of hospitality, symbolize? Do you think there is now the concept of hospitality that the ancient Greeks had? After reading the article on Ulysses syndrome, do you think that we are really behaving like Polyphemus with refugees and immigrants who want to come to Europe?

I think the reason is that you can be the host for someone one day but another day you may need to be the guest because you’re travelling and need a place to stay. So since you don’t know if one day you’ll need someone’s help, you should do what you want others to do with you: give a place to stay and food to eat.

On the other hand, Polyphemus symbolizes these people who are not hospitable. As well, nowadays we will never let anyone stay in our house without asking them about their names or job, or even knowing these things, we will say no. We just can’t understand how ancient Greeks could do that, but we should empathize with people and be more open, because not everyone in the world has to be a bad person. Also, in general we have so much fear of getting hurt by strangers, we have some kind of prejudice that connects “stranger” and “bad”.

Apart from that, I totally agree with the article. We’re Polyphemus with zero kindness who don’t want to let a murderer get in our house. So, what do we do to prevent it? Believe that every single person in the world has bad intentions and wants to hurt us. Overlooking the fact that we’re people with very little empathy about how others feel, I think that there are still good people on the planet.

Alejandra Martínez

Hospitality is something that is currently being lost, but in the past, people gave hospitality to everyone who came to their humble land and needed a shelter to stay. They gave him the basic necessities, food, water, a shower and after offering him everything he needed, that was the moment when they asked him where he came from and who he was. All this has been changing, mainly because there is no longer so much presence of the gods in our culture and in their culture, the gods were very present. All of this can be seen in the odyssey when the protagonist goes back home.

Currently, we do not treat foreigners well. We treat them as if they were objects, but they are people like us. When they enter our country, many people say they are left over and we don't give them hospitality.

I do not know when, society changed, so we consider immigrants to be inferior to us but we always have to treat them as human beings not as animals, as many people see them

Alexia Lázaro

I personally think that hospitality is something really important in the education of the people, not only hospitality, but the fact of help everybody that needs it, because if we were in that situation we surely would want the people to help us too, but unfortunately this is something that we’ve lost with the pass of the time, maybe because most of the people lives in a flat and the situation that someone is knocking at your door praying for a place to stay is less posible, or just the fact that we’re a selfish society and we don’t care about the others, just about ourselves. I know that changing that at this point is difficult, but I really wish that we could treat the needy people better than how we’re doing it nowadays.

Samuel Herrer

Polyphemus did not respect the guests, he had a supernatural and monstrous character, since he not only did not respect them but also ate them.I don't think we are behaving like him because, for example, we here have ONG that
help refugees or simply people in need.I think that hospitality is important because although we have lost that habit a bit, we do not do it the same as before, it is an act of solidarity and humility There are people in other places who do not have even half of the things that we have , and they come here with the intention of improving their living situation to survive or simply to support their family properly. When foreigners arrive here we offer them food, comfortable clothes, a place to live and we offer them a bit of our hospitality.

Kadhy Diatou

If it had been in another time much further back, perhaps if I would welcome a stranger in my house, but I think that today you can't trust anyone. I wouldn't criticize anyone who doesn't welcome a stranger in their home since I wouldn't either. Neither would I criticize someone who does welcome the stranger. I think the reason was that we all wanted more provacity and we no longer trusted each other. Yes, both refugees, immigrants or other types of people experience all the time this hospitality tratment that we have today, luckily, there are still people in tis world who continuw to have good hospitality treatment.

Erika Bádenas

I would make my home available to a homeless who came in off the street because it is nice to help people who need it. I would not criticize nobody because each person cand do whatever they want, but if that person need help in any moment, he would like to have help. I wouldnt wonder about the sanity of a person who did it. Depending on people immigrants experience different types of hospitality nowadays in our country. For example, in my opinion, I think that the people who emigrated from their country are because they are in war or are not good there so they go to another country to have a better life, that's because i think every person has the right of having a good life .

Nahia López

Would you make your home available to a homeless person who came in off the street? yes, i would let my home to a homeless person because its a symbol of respect and also its a tradition, a tradition that is a pity that has passed away

Would you criticize someone who did not? no, because i understand that the people has distrust on foreigners

Would you wonder about the sanity of someone who did? yes, a little bit, because, you don't know what diseses could have the foreigner

If the attitude toward hospitality has changed, why and how did it change? Because years ago everybody have the obligation of giving home and have hospitality to anyone who ask for it and nowadays it's not like that

Do you think refugees or immigrants experience the same kind of hospitality nowadays in our country? no, because nowadays we don’t receive the people good because we think they’re gonna steal us

Luisa Casaus

I think that the hospitality is something that has been lost over time, before people were very hospitable, they helped people who did not anything and did not want anything in return. Right now, if a person you don't know at all asks you for hospitality and that you let him into your house, you would not let him in, we would be like Polyphemus. Polyphemus was punished for not giving hospitality to Odysseus and his friends, they left him blind, but nowadays no one is criticized or punished for not being hospitable. The attitude has change, because the times has change and the things that were normal years ago, now are weird and it change because years ago, for example in villages, when someone need a bed to sleep a random person of the village offer his house for that person, and now this things doesn't happen. Migrants who go to other countries are treated well, they are treated badly because they want to escape from a war or simply go to live in another country, they are treated badly by them, and it does not seem right to me.

Lucía Gómez

People think that the people need hospitality to take advanteges to the people that logdement them. Yes, i would make available my home to a person who cames off the street. Anyone have to criticize people we don't now, people say that they doesn't matter they get criticize, but the reality is that they care about they get criticize about they live aspect. All human need sanity, they have money or not, because have a good sanity is priority. The hospitality changes because people start to distrut of the people that need hospitaliy, just because people start to enter to the houses do everithing that they want, not all obusly. Refugees are not recibe at the mood that they will want to be recibe, in some countries people is report to their natal countries.

Irune Pirón

I would probably make my house available to a homeless person, depending on the conditions in which both that person and I find ourselves. Criticize someone who did not do it according to their reasons, if they do it out of selfishness, yes, but if they do it for another reason, no.I would not ask about the sanity of someone who did not,since a person has every right to invite anyone to their home. The attitude towards hospitality has changed because these days people who ask for accommodation have bad intentions, and that is why we have become quite suspicious.Today immigrants who travel to our country are afraid because people are so disgraced and that disbelief often turns into hatred towards them.

Lucía Santos

In my opinion, nowadays we don't have the type of hospitality that they have a long time ago. Because in these days, first we look if we are going to expend too much money helping the person or if he or she can have some illness, than take care of the person that need help.

Julio Liso

Despite the fantastic ancient Greek tradition of hospitality, today we have forgotten what it means to be hospitable with people from other countries.

We have locked ourselves in our borders and we don’t offer help to the foreigner who comes in inhuman conditions and without anything. Today there are thousands of people who have to leave their homes. Leaving behind everything they have and arriving in a country that isn’t hospitable to them . Conversely, the first thing they do is asking them who they are and where they come from.

The circumstances that have caused these foreigners to leave their homes may happen to us tomorrow. So let's start behaving as we would like to be treated.

Nuria López

Hospitality is something that is being lost in this day and age, but in the old days people gave hospitality to anyone who came to their humble land and needed a shelter to stay. They would give them food, water, a shower and after offering them everything they needed, they would ask them where they came from and what their intentions were. All this has been changing, mainly because there is not so much presence of the gods in our culture and the fear of the wickedness of some people has penetrated deep into our culture. All this can be seen in the odyssey when the protagonist returns home.
In conclusion, they used to have hospitality and today's society has lost it due to selfishness and fear.

Samuel Royo

I think that "xenos" means foreigner and guest because they seek to treat foreigners who come to their homes in the best possible way, since hospitality is a religious obligation for them.

Polyphemus is not hospitable and treats the crew of Odysseus horribly, eating some of them,but as it is not hospitable it will have a very bad end,means that he is in breach of his religious obligations and will be punished by zeus.

I think we are losing that hospitality and that we do not let just anyone into our homes and if they do enter our homes we do not treat them as if they were normal guests.

My family is an immigrant family and their experience as strangers was very bad, I think we have to be hospitable to people who come to bring positive things to the country because these people deserve a good treatment.

Luis Felipe Bedoya

Okay, so what is hospitality? Well that is a thing we can say that the ancient greeks invented and they respect it so far, nowadays we are not as hospitable to people as the ancient Greek, and more if they are foreigners. The ancient Greek used to take people in even if they are from another country, so the word xenos was used for guests and also for foreigners, because all foreigners had the right of the hospitality, also if they violate this right they thought that Zeus will punish them, so they make sure the guest feel comfortable, but also there are some rules the guest had to respect, so both of them could be happy at the end.

Polyphemus violates this right and doesn't care about hospitality, devouring some men of Odysseus and also trying to kill all of them, even when Odysseus asked for haven.

I think we're acting like Polyphemus with the refugees that are coming from Syria or other countries at war, they have no place to live, and also the most of them, lose their families or their goods, and we re not making them easier the situation they're going through. So in my opinion Zeus would be so angry with us. I think we're all Polyphemus, and we're gonna end like him

Jeray Quílez

Reading:

Hospitality – One of the Ancient World’s Highest Virtues

In the ancient world, travelers and strangers were to be given hospitality. As Menelaus said, when rebuking a retainer for not immediately showing hospitality to Telemachus:

You were no idiot before, Eteoneus,

but here you are talking like a child of ten.

Could we have made it home again — and Zeus

give us no more hard roving — if other men

had never fed us, given us lodging? Book IV lines 34-38

Guests, in return, were not to abuse that hospitality. Thus, when a Trojan prince, while a guest at the palace of Menelaus, stole the king’s wife and treasure, it was a breach of the rules of hospitality and led to the Trojan War. The suitors of Penelope committed a capital offense when they abused the rules of hospitality by taking over the home of an absent man. To compound their crime, they themselves abused a beggar (Odysseus in disguise) and failed to extend to him the hospitality that they had demanded and abused. The interest of the gods in punishing abuses of hospitality is shown by the sack of Troy and by the direct intervention of Athena, helping Odysseus to trap and kill the suitors.

The Cyclops is lawless, obeying neither the rules imposed by gods or any society. He violates the obligation of hospitality, eating six of Odysseus’ men before Odysseus blinds him. Eumaios, the swineherd, the first human being Odysseus meets when he returns to Ithaca, is also the first host who is neither god nor aristocrat. This episode shows that rules of hospitality extend to the lower classes.

ΑCTIVITY

There are still many cultures in the world today and in the recent past which have valued hospitality in a way similar to the ancient Greeks. However, modern Western culture does not hold hospitality in such high regard.

1. Would you make your home available to a homeless person who came in off the street?
2. Would you criticize someone who did not?
3. Would you wonder about the sanity of someone who did?
4. If the attitude toward hospitality has changed, why and how did it change?
5. Do you think refugees or immigrants experience the same kind of hospitality nowadays in our country?

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